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Merely it became known, with extreme suddenness and everywhere at once, that Eastasia and not Eurasia was the enemy. - 1984
antman
If the US were working for Russia, what would they do differently other than supply weapons to Russia and/or join on their side? Each day it takes more and more faith to believe the opposite.
exe34
They would recognize Crimea and all four partially occupied oblasts as Russian. They would support the annexation of additional oblasts that Russia claims belong to "Novorossia".

Freezing the conflict is NOT what Russia wants right now.

If one is extremely cynical, one could claim that the recent actions are a signal to Moscow to hurry up and finish the business in Donetsk/Zaphorizia so that a stable peace deal can be achieved instead of leaving things open yet again.

I'm not that cynical yet and think that Trump indeed attempts to extort a lend-and-lease deal of the same sort that the U.S. imposed on Britain in WW2.

twy128391287
Russia definitely wants to freeze the conflict... They're producing more weapons than Europe yet unable to make major breakthroughs, pausing, rebuilding (without sanctions) and then trying over will definitely yield more territory than what they're currently doing.
dismalaf
I think the WW2 lend lease was quite generous to Britain.
tim333
We charged the UK quite heavily for our support. Quoting from (https://yarchive.net/space/politics/lend_lease.html).

In a political sense, well, that's much more debatable. The problem there is that because the US itself did not feel threatened, US aid came with a price tag: the impoverishment of Britain and the demolition of the trade barriers around the British Commonwealth. US aid was on a cash-only basis until Britain had spent all its hard-currency reserves (both gold and negotiable securities). Then came the Lend-Lease agreement -- arguably the point where the US truly entered the war -- and its price tag was explicit, although unadvertised: the agreement itself contains a clause stipulating the removal of the Commonwealth's trade barriers.

throw16180339
If the Ukraine reacts by being less precise in its attacks they might make more progress demoralizing Russia since Russia has less capability of hiding civilian casualties than military ones.

But they should really focus on wooing China. China has never been as friendly with Russia as it appears and Europe might start ranking them over the US and Russia as the least distasteful if they play their hand well right now..

snailmailstare
Historically bombing civilians has always galvanised the public against the enemy more than it 'demoralises' them.

For instance the bombing of England during WW2 didn't break their will to fight. The fire bombing of 95% of Japan's cities didn't diminish their will to fight either.

And let's not forget the vietnam war... didn't seem to be effective for the US...

Bombing civilians rarely achieves any war goals and may actually have the opposite affect.

JimTheMan
China has never been as friendly with Russia as the US is now, but it was as friendly as it gets.
antman
Some are suggesting this is because recent gains that Ukraine is making as the army of Russia is getting exhausted also because of some recent succesful destruction of large stockpiles of ammunition by drone attacks.
fjfaase
Seems more likely due the new president.
tim333
Impeach
knowitnone
Okay, but how given the makeup of the House (and D's just lost Sylvester Turner of TX-18)? And then convict in the Senate. The republic is a de facto empire in the open with a unitary executive (duumvirate with Musk and sidekick Vance), a weak and partisan SCOTUS, and a weak majority and ineffective bicameral COTUS.

So far, every impeachment in modern history has been entirely political theater accomplishing nothing, rendering impeachment as a virtue signal rather than a "break glass" nuclear option to remove a threat to the republic.

And then online, it has become the rallying cry of keyboard warriors to conduct cyber tokenism in place of real, courageous disobedience like Al Green.

Might I humbly suggest anyone who disagrees with the prevailing course organize and exercise 1a and vote with their wallets because protesting and speech may soon be criminalized.

cantrecallmypwd
Though for what exactly?
tim333
Aiding and abetting foreign interests. Russia hasn't exactly been an ally of the US. We were opposing their conquest of Ukraine.
goatlover
The US implementing Russian's foreign policy is something I didn't think possible. Trump clearly idolizes Putin (if not worse), and his supporters don't care.
goatlover
For now. When trump starts his own Ukraine to get rid off internal opposition , the care will return like a howling drone swarm.
ashoeafoot
Just today he's threatening "American students will be permanently expelled or, depending on on the crime, arrested" for "illegal protests" by which doesn't sound very American.
tim333
The very students who for a generation easily abandoned their fellow men to suffer through poverty, industrial buildback, opiod crisis to instead bestow solidarity upon insane death cults? The students who celebrated past guilt,to ease their present guilt for class traitorship, those students ? A million treaties on slavery and a can of paint for slavery in the present, if its not us?

the brahmans of the castes of suffering who used any way to reduce uncomfortable topics down to screaming racism and bigotry, while getting funded by the same foreign racists and bigots that funded MAGA?

The "social might makes right" group, that screamed down all "non-issues" with discussion air superiority instead of real arguments ? The education that gave us a whole generation of elites unable to deal with reality, red line after red line, one huge selfcelebrated retrat into defeat, the education of these students? The scientific papermill bastions that produced and imported a never ending replication crisis in most fields are under siege? Shocking! Of course no reason to panic, analyse or introspect, pure conservation inertia will keep it all going forever and a day!

Those students need help? Im sure the public will rally to their cause immediately. Everything for our whinest and dinest, those inept,inbred dynasties have to offer. The counter-elite they have grown is taking the cake and they still can not rally. But the students sure will, bound by debt and sentenced to generational poverty .

Or they will at least hijack any valid protest to park their divisive dysfunctional poison one last time .

ashoeafoot
There is a relevant document you might be interested in with respect to this topic.
beveldropshadow
Not really.
ashoeafoot
One can hope. So far it seems that when it's about Ukraine, Putin/Trump supporters are all about "peace whatever the cost (to Ukraine and the US' soft power)", but when it's about Canada/Greenland/Panama, then it's all peachy.
yks
Maybe an US Army guy or defense analyst knows how HIMARS and/or MLRS work: Can these systems function completely independently of integrated, US-run targeting/intelligence "cloud" IBCS with domestic battlefield intel and strike orders for lat+lon+time+weapon?
cantrecallmypwd
ChrisArchitect
Ugly.
zfg
If this doesnt force putin to a negotiation table I dont know what will.
rasz
This is a funny comment. If this doesn't force Putin to the negotiation table, then you know what will - the US stopping all military aid to Ukraine. One of these things that US has done to Ukraine is bound to convince Putin, right?
parasti
Next step is humanitarian aid to russia, they got hurt by this senseless war badly and need all the help they can get. After that military aid, and then direct US military intervention killing rowdy Ukrainians who just dont know when to stop defending themselves.

WTF is this timeline :(

rasz
If it's solely on Russia's terms, why should Ukraine accept a deal? Zelensky knows Putin can't be trusted, the Trump admin pretends it doesn't know that.
goatlover
I finally heard a politician openly tell it how it is today! Current French Senator Claude Malhuret https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-lh0TUTtvI :

>Washington became the court of Nero, an incendiary emperor, submissive courtiers and a jester under ketamine in charge of the purification of the public service.

>in one month, Trump has done more harm to America than in four years of his last presidency. We were at war against a dictator, we are now fighting against a dictator supported by a traitor.

https://www.rawstory.com/french-senator-musk-trump/ covers it, https://www.resetera.com/threads/washington-became-the-court... <- this has whole speech translated.

Macron, Starmer, even my own president are all still in denial :| Germany's Merz seems to know whats going on, but is still trying to be veeeery diplomatic about it.

rasz
I love how all these European politicians wants US to send more money and weapons to Ukraine while thier own individual contributions are significantly lower.

If they want to fight so bad, why not spend more % of their own gdp, especially French and Germany who are close to the situation.

> Germany's Merz seems to know whats going on, but is still trying to be veeeery diplomatic about it.

They literally have no other option. If they could continue war on thier own, they won't be "trying to be veeeery diplomatic about it"

an_guy
That seems more like more of the same grandstanding that created this problem, Russia Bad I don't disagree. Being surprised when you let America foot the bill for security and looking the other way when they create proxy conflicts to serve their goals only to complain when the US drops the mask and says you let me do what I want as long as you didn't have to foot the bill and responsibility and now it's FU time seemed the only likely outcome. This also works in the US favor Europe has to shift focus and divert resources to Russia.That creates financial opportunities the us can exploit. Trade wars make money, Real wars drain resources. Financial and population. After the war how many Anti Russian citizens will be alive to vote. Switching gears China has strong interest in the fresh water and resources near their border that Russia could trade or even lose if Russia can be made weak enough. Russia has a wealth of facts to twist into propaganda. Honestly restricting this narrative to something as simple as Russia Bad just guarantees the US laughs all the way to the bank.
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